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Post by racingnation on Aug 6, 2013 19:21:07 GMT -5
Where do I find the rules for IR?
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Post by racingnation on Aug 12, 2013 6:24:58 GMT -5
Is there anybody out there?
Although, personally, I prefer Shine on you crazy diamond...
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Post by racingnation on Aug 12, 2013 8:39:19 GMT -5
In addition to the IR question, I am assuming that any international signings which occur after our draft but still in 2013 will be available in the 2014 draft? If so, would that be after our draft begins, or after it ends? (I would think signings would be locked as soon as the draft begins)
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Post by Cardinals GM on Aug 12, 2013 15:34:07 GMT -5
I was waiting for Nationals to respond but the more I think about it, I've got the answer. Our DL is going to be tied to the host site, whether that be ESPN, Yahoo, or something else. If you are putting someone on the DL you would then add someone to your roster, much the same as your 25 man roster on this site. The reverse would be true, if you are activating a player on the host site you would have to drop someone from that roster and reflect that on your roster here as well. I'm not sure if Nationals wants to impose a minimum time for DL players to be off a team's DL if they are off of the real life DL.
Your assumption about international signings is right on. If an international player signs after we draft then they are not available until the next draft. For example, Jose Abreu just defected and is eligible to sign but if he doesn't sign prior to our draft then we will have to wait until 2014 for him to be drafted on to one of our teams.
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Post by racingnation on Aug 12, 2013 16:39:41 GMT -5
Thanks Mr Cardinals! I would also assume that anyone placed on DL also still counts against the salary cap, as well as anybody activated to replace him. In a perfect world it might be nice to allow a "free" demotion when activating off DL, but I can see where that would be a royal pain for accounting. Jose Abreu? Never heard of him...
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Post by Cardinals GM on Aug 12, 2013 23:09:44 GMT -5
I can say yes that anyone on DL would count against cap. Keep in mind that there are free waiver passes for those who have not exhausted their rookie eligibility. It may not line up for everyone's specific circumstance but something to keep in mind.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 20:35:47 GMT -5
Whats the difference between paid minor leaguers and players in the minor leagues? I notice people distinguishing this in their team page..
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Post by Old Astros GM on Aug 14, 2013 21:02:09 GMT -5
Whats the difference between paid minor leaguers and players in the minor leagues? I notice people distinguishing this in their team page.. This has already been covered in the thread. All you have to do is go back a page and you can read about it there.
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Post by Old Astros GM on Aug 14, 2013 21:04:42 GMT -5
Whats the difference between paid minor leaguers and players in the minor leagues? I notice people distinguishing this in their team page.. Paid minors are for players that were a part of the original starter roster as of June 9 that you do not intend to have start because better options are available via the draft, trade, etc. They need to go to your paid minors, however, because they have already started their clock having been a member of the original roster. You keep a guy in paid minors to retain control of them instead of releasing them. For example, Ryan Wheeler is a guy I don't want to release but I also don't have a spot for him in my starting line up. But because he was on the Rockies' roster as of June 9 his clock has already begun to tick and a contract of $300,000 is applied to him. The reason for me keeping him as a paid minors player is to keep control of him even though I don't plan to immediately play him. If I am wrong about anything please correct my errors. Also, if someone can explain it in a better way feel free to do that as well. Rockies is correct, paid minors are guys in your system that have been assigned contracts but who aren't on your MLB roster. All the players on starter rosters have been assigned contracts. So, in the future, if you call a prospect up and then use a waiver pass on him he'll be put onto your paid minor league roster (all the rest of your prospects who do not have contracts yet don't count on this list). The reason we need to have a paid minor league roster is simple: bookkeeping. You are required to keep a list of your paid minor-leaguers so we can keep up with the salary cap. Unpaid guys...totally up to you to make a list of them or not (I'd suggest it so you can keep track of your guys, but it's not required by league rules).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2013 8:35:14 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification. Is the paid minors a fluid designation? Meaning that I can move a guy who is on my bench to minors after 9/1. I understand salary is still the same. But just seeing where I should slot people now.
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Post by Braves GM on Aug 15, 2013 8:39:06 GMT -5
What are the rules regarding rostering drafted players? For prospects not on a team's current roster, do they have to be on my paid minors roster or could they just be in my prospect pool? For players on one of the six unowned teams' rosters, can I assign any player that I draft to paid minors, and then call them up after the FA period based on how my roster shapes up?
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Post by Cardinals GM on Aug 15, 2013 12:02:48 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification. Is the paid minors a fluid designation? Meaning that I can move a guy who is on my bench to minors after 9/1. I understand salary is still the same. But just seeing where I should slot people now. It is fluid right now because rosters haven't locked. Once they do, you will need to use waivers or rookie rule to go back and forth from paid minors to the 25 man roster. I may have caused some confusion on my roster because I put Oscar Taveras on my roster and he hasn't been called up. I'm simply assuming that he will be by the start of the year next year and have placed him in that spot. I could be wrong and have to move him to paid minors and account for that $300,000 earlier than I would have. I still have the option of not listing him on my final roster at all since he wasn't called up as of June 9th. As we look through the final rosters the board may ask GMs if they want to list players that weren't called up at that point just in case there was confusion.
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Post by Old Astros GM on Aug 15, 2013 12:09:05 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification. Is the paid minors a fluid designation? Meaning that I can move a guy who is on my bench to minors after 9/1. I understand salary is still the same. But just seeing where I should slot people now. Yeah. This is what is posted in the rules about waivers: Waiver Claims From time to time owners will put a player on waivers. Once a player is on waivers, owners have 72 hours to reply to the waivers post and claim the player. If no one claims the player, the owner that put him on waivers sends him to the owner's minor league roster. The contract remains the same and the player should be listed on the owner's roster page as a paid minor leaguer. If another team claims the player, then after 72 hours the claiming owner will add the player to their 25-man roster. When a player is claimed, the original owner that put the player on waivers no longer lists the player or his contract on his roster. Both owners should update their transaction logs accordingly. Note that to make a successful claim, an owner needs an open 25-man spot. If multiple owners make claims on the player, then the owner whose fantasy team has the worst win-loss percentage will win the player. In the off-season, the owner that had the worse record for the previous year will win the player. Also, remember the 5 waiver passes you are allowed each season.
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Post by Cardinals GM on Aug 15, 2013 12:15:08 GMT -5
What are the rules regarding rostering drafted players? For prospects not on a team's current roster, do they have to be on my paid minors roster or could they just be in my prospect pool? For players on one of the six unowned teams' rosters, can I assign any player that I draft to paid minors, and then call them up after the FA period based on how my roster shapes up? I'll let Nationals weigh in on the intent but I would assume that if they are a draftee that wasn't on a roster as of June 9th, they will be in your prospect pool. We'll have to find some way to annotate that like another thread on your team page. If they were on one of the six unowned teams' rosters, they will need to go to paid minors or your 25 man roster. Good question regarding the affect of the draft in the first year and it helps me better understand Twins' question. My answer above was based on future year rules but the first year is going to be very different. We'll see what Nationals says.
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Post by racingnation on Aug 16, 2013 9:18:06 GMT -5
If Nationals GM doesn't chime in soon, do we need to consider that team abandoned?
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